Ep 4 | Frequency & Tone: The Energy Behind How You Speak, Pray, and Receive.

Have you ever noticed your voice changes depending on who you're talking to — and wondered which one is actually you?

In this episode, Hemali and Sheila explore the energy underneath how we speak, pray, and show up in the world. From customer service voices to sacred mantras, they get into what frequency actually feels like in the body — the dissonance when someone's tone doesn't match their words, the exhaustion of social spaces when you're neurodivergent, and why a Sanskrit chant you can't translate can bring you closer to God than a prayer you've recited your whole life.

Hemali shares what mantras actually mean in Sanskrit and her wild experiment of running five prayers simultaneously in her mind. Sheila breaks down how she uses chanting to bypass her thinking mind and find her real feelings underneath.

If you've never thought about your own frequency before — this is your invitation to start exploring it. You have full permission.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Today we're exploring something most people never stop to think about. The energy underneath how you speak, not the words, the frequency. We're talking about customer service voices, the masks we wear in conversation, why mantras in a language you don't understand can bring you closer to God than a prayer you've recited your whole life. And what happens when you finally check your own frequency before asking the universe for anything? If you've ever felt like there's a version of your voice that's actually yours and a version that's performing, stay with us. By the end, you might start hearing the difference. Hi, I'm Himali. Thank you so much for coming and listening to us today. Hi, Sheila, how are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:29

I'm doing good, Himali. Thank you. It's so exciting to be here again.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yes, and today our topic, we're really exploring the topic of frequency and tone, and specifically the energy behind how you speak, how you pray, how you receive, and the frequency under all of it. We're talking about what happens when your voice shifts or changes from when you're performing to when you're actually in your truth. Most of us have a public voice that you speak at work, speak with acquaintances, um, and just in general conversation. And then there is a private private voice, and that could include your own tone and your talking to yourself or close relatives, your husband, your partners, your kids. And so we're gonna talk about you know how that changes, the tone of voice changes, and how does it feel when we're fully in our own voice? And how does it shift? How do you feel within your body? So, have you ever noticed your voice changes? And depending on who you're talking to, and how does it feel when you're talking to them, does your frequency change? I would love to hear that from you, Sheila.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Well, Himali, this is a big one, I gotta say. Have I noticed? Yes, this happens all the time. And I come from a big background in customer service. So you know when sometimes people are working in customer service long enough, there's that specific tone that comes up, hi, how are you? It's so specifically to that environment that you can pick it out after you've been in for long enough. So I discovered that I used to use my customer service voice in places where it was uncomfortable for me to talk, which tended to be like doctor's office, calling to make a doctor's appointment. Oh gosh, that was terrifying for me. I'm like, I don't know how to do this. I have to step into my customer service person, right? Hi, how are you? I'm calling to make an appointment, you know? So very much deliberately personifying the label of that tone. Customer service. So the voice is agreeable, clear, concise, helpful, right? So absolutely have noticed where it has moved into and the areas it had spawned into throughout my life, which tended to be specifically calls, because I hate calls. I hate calls and I lean on my customer service training voice when I have to use it for that. But it's very important that when we're talking about frequency and how it moves and changes, specifically with different people, that it doesn't determine who you are, right? It's a natural thing that happens. I don't talk to my children the same way I talk to someone that I just met, right? It is in a way something that happens in order to fit into a certain parameter. And specifically when you can become really self-conscious about what you're going to say. Um, I can feel when the tone of that customer service ring comes up on my voice, or rather, when it's my true form and it kind of drops down, and then my chest becomes more where my voice comes from, you know? So it's okay to have all of those voices. I think they can be very helpful, but the more most important part is recognizing we all have a unique ring to the truth of our own voice. So for me, and I can just demonstrate, hi, how are you? Right? Or if I'm just talking like now, is a more heart-centered expression of my communication than that tone of customer service. So, and then to your to what you mentioned earlier, how do you know you're coming from truth? That's how I know. If I'm talking in a high register, I'm just performing the emotion of the sincerity, of the transparency for the sake of who I am speaking to. When I'm speaking from my core, my truth, it usually sounds deeper. It usually takes a different flavor, you know? It sounds heart-centered or collected, right? How about you? How do you feel it fits into your body? How do you know for yourself? And do you have you ever experienced that customer service voice?

SPEAKER_00 6:01

Just like you, I started, you know, I was also in customer service. I worked, um, and even healthcare is customer service, right? In a way, it is customer service. And I spent many hours with patients and working with them. So, but on the other end, when you were talking about, you know, hate being on the phone, you and I have talked about this. I do not like being on the phone, meaning having conversations or or how I abruptly end the conversation, the other person is like, what? We had this deep, in-depth conversation, like, and you know, we said, I love you and all that, and I was just like, Okay, bye. And I hang up, or even my voice messages are all over the places. So I understand that I feel that when we are um that when we are in our own truth, in our own frequency, the communication becomes easier, it flows, and there is no restriction to the conversation, there is no tiptoeing around certain things, there is no that fear, you know, if I say this, it's gonna trigger that person. I shouldn't say this around this person. I so it's like there are fears, there are guilt, you know, all those emotions are kind of out of question. So you don't bring that in, your body feels lighter, you feel lighter, and you can have an open communication, you can have a gentle, the voice becomes gentler, and it doesn't become sort of fake or you know, I am performing. Also depends on time of day and how your energy is, right? All day. Like you just come from outside and somebody you got angry about something with someone, and then you bring it on to, of course, you always bring it on to your closest loved ones, right? Your partners and children and siblings and parents and everyone, but you're not able to take that out on the people that you just met, or some of the friends or acquaintances that you're not close with, right? So that also shifts and changes. So how you say what you say, what can you say? So that, yeah, it's it's almost like wearing different masks. This, like you carrying this, or how the this whole weight of this conversation, or how it how you relate with each individual or separately, or how did it, you know, first come into your awareness?

SPEAKER_01 8:39

Gosh, I I love this. We wouldn't need a probably a whole episode on it. Right?

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

Because when you asked me how do you first come up on this, right? On this understanding of where how you navigate conversations and spaces. I'm neurodivergent. The ability to really function in social spaces that required my voice was very difficult for me. Up until today, it still happens. I have we have very deep, honest, raw conversations, you and I, at least once or twice a week, right? And it takes me two to three days to come back to function. And I literally cannot continue to answer calls, I cannot have another call with someone because for me, what happens is it's a very body experience of someone's tone or behavior is not lined up. Their frequency is a mismatch, and for me, I experience that internally very geometrically, so it's like literally trying to press a circle through a triangular shape, and it gets me really tired. Um, and I don't really understand. Like, we we're just talking about something normal. Why did that expression change, right? And it happens with everybody, but when I really started kind of like sitting with that understanding and realizing I need time to myself, this uh about two years ago. I didn't know I was feeling ran down, I didn't know why I was experiencing burnout, just from hey, how are you? Well, chit-chat's not easy for me. I don't know how to gauge whether you're being really like engaged with me or just using a persona, you know? Hey, how are you? And I I know this is a little digressing, but I would sit there questioning, you just asked me how I was, but you just walked away. Oh yeah, hi, how are you? I don't get it. I don't it was so triggering for me. So feeling dissonance in frequency, tone, and behavior is a very physical thing for me. I only have enough capacity to handle it for an extended amount of time, and that's okay. We're all different, but again, it's a very physical thing, and I learned to just shed the masks, and now I just show up however I am. If I'm having a bad day, why am I gonna hide it? Oh, I'm having a bad day. But that's okay, it's not your fault. And I move into natural conversation with someone, but I mention and honor when my real feeling is, where my frequency honestly sits at in that moment, right? When you and I get into conversations, I usually go, and how was your week? And then you go, and how is your week? And we kind of like unload that before we get into the heavier aspects. I don't get to do that with anybody else. Are you crazy? They were gonna call me critzy, but it's beautiful to arrive at a conversation where I know you're listening, you know, where I know I can arrive as I am, and things will naturally move through, and I won't have to feel as though I am carrying all these geometrical shapes inside of my body. So thank you for bringing that up because I don't think a lot of us or many people get to know or think about what others may experience when they're here dissonance in energy, tone, and behavior. How is it for you when you encounter someone and you're just talking, do you have a visceral physical reaction or is it just mental? What does that look like for him, Ali?

SPEAKER_00 12:33

I think all of it, um, and I can relate to you more and more. I'm noticing like the deeper conversations I have, you and I, or I have few friends that um we can just go into the depth of um conversation, what's happening just globally, or anything that I need time to process. I need to sit down. Um, and sometimes you're right, like when we have these deep conversations, it takes me a couple of days to kind of like, wait, let me think about this. And it's not just me thinking and analyzing or anything. I think that subconsciously, my energetic, like it's coming to that new information, like each cell of my body is coming to that vibration or frequency. It takes time for it to um kind of immerse itself into that new information and and coming into that new way of being. Because again, every conversation, and I love when I heard, you know, and which is true, it's like spelling words, it's spell, right? You cast into the world or within yourself. And so, for initially, like my first, I think, when I start noticing for myself was the things that I used to say. One was, I love you more than I love myself. That was a big one for me, and I used to say that all the time, and I would sit and really think about that. Like, why? Well, he didn't ask me to. I am doing that to myself, and why? Why do I love someone else more than I love myself? And so, really going in depth about that, and then also noticing that if I don't love myself, how would I know what love is? Like, how am I even going to receive? Because you keep asking, you know, people ask, I want this, I want this kind of, but if you are not able to receive it, like if you don't know what it is, then how are you gonna receive it? And it was the same thing, I think, that this really opened up so much for me in terms of if I'm not even able to receive appraise from someone, Himali, you have a beautiful smile. And then you go into, I went into, oh, but I have big teeth, I have a gap in my, you know, between my teeth, I don't like it, they're coming out. I need, I didn't receive it well. All they said was, you have a beautiful smile, right? So if I can't even take this small compliment towards me, and I'm here I am every day praying to higher beings and divine, I am open to receive whatever that is. How am I going to be able to receive that is in the ether, right? So energetically. And so I think that was my kind of a breaking point. I really started noticing the things I used to say, not only to myself about me, what I say about me to everyone else. And it was just like that exploration phase, the curiosity, how people say things, you know, let's just get over with. I was like, I bring myself in every conversation because I want to be there. I come to your house because I am there and I want to spend time with you. I want to um, and that doesn't mean I'm just putting out there that sometimes I say no, um, because I really have something to do. I love you. Uh, you guys know who you are. Um, but at times, what I'm saying is that I bring my 100%. I bring my energy, I bring my body, you know, I bring all to where I am most of the time, at least 95% of the time, because I am scattered brain and I'm all over the place. That's something, you know, I really started shifting and noticing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

Yeah. I agree with so much of that, and that's also been an impact thing for me.

unknown 17:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

We think we arrive at places, and that the frequency we arrived in those places at doesn't matter. But I kid you not, if you arrive somewhere huffing, puffing, feeling rushed, the level of reciprocity of that, you're gonna probably receive like a different level of treatment than someone who arrives calm, cool, and collected and who's able to just say hey hi or you know, address the person rather than the problem. So checking where your particular frequency is at before you partake in any particular conversation is so important. Oh, because how are you going to receive someone depends not only on what they're bringing, but what you're putting out. So a lot of times we feel as though we are owed a specific thing or a kindness, a behavior, pleasantry, whatever. We're owed it because we're being nice. But are we being truly nice? Can the person detect this is just performance? Can I check my own frequency and say I want to show up authentically in that moment? No matter who is across that desk or um across from me or how my friend is feeling. Can I show up fully and transparently as I am without immediately wanting something in return? Um giving it that space to flourish, you know? Really acknowledge when that person says, Well, I'm having a bad day. It's not just oh well, all too bad, you know. Take your time, take a breath, acknowledge that person is having a bad day, you know. I'm sorry to hear that. Are you stepping out soon? Will you be able to get some air? Thank you for being here while you're not feeling well. It goes such a long way. But if we don't check our own frequency, our own tone, we cannot get to that step. We cannot get to that full exercise of being fully in your own embodied frequency to meet somebody else's. Okay, we're always gonna experience triggers if we don't address that. So it's important to sit with that and think about that for not only professional spaces, but everyday encounters, you know.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

But then people would say, Well, we're so busy, we don't have time for this, right? We're just making small talks and moving along to our next thing and to our next thing, right? So I hear hear you. And then there's also this flip side. So while you were saying this, I was thinking about, you know, you've sometimes you go to gatherings where you know certain people, they're like, when they're talking with you, they're so focused on only on you, they're not gonna notice anyone else. And then it's like, okay, but they can't even move on to anywhere, anybody else. And so that also to some people feels awkward, either feels left out, being left out, or it feels like, should I move to another person? Like if somebody's talking to you. Have you ever been in that kind of situation? Emily, I I am just an awkward person overall.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

So, yes, I've been in those types of situations where in both stances, right? Same here. All the all the full-on attention on me is paralyzing for me. Like, please don't like like take a beat, relax. Um, and also as the person who's to the side and hasn't been acknowledged, and what that feels like, right? The frequency and the discomfort of that is upsetting. It makes me nauseous quite a bit, actually, because I don't know how to interject in those moments, right? I'm like, when do I say like, or do I stay quiet, right? And how long do I stay quiet for? So it's a constant questioning in my in my mind in social interactions. When do I fully step in and how? But been there in those in those moments where it feels really uncomfortable, both having all of the attention and having none of the attention. But more than that, talk to me about walking into a space and immediately feeling like, wait, something is up. My spidey senses are activated. Talk to me about that shock in frequency because that's a big one. And there's a lot of empaths out there, there's a lot of energy absorbers who walk into spaces and can tell right away, whoa, something's going on.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Yeah. I've I've had those, and where you walk in, you're like something is off. It's like there has been like you walk into the space, the energy is dense. Too dense, either sometimes you can't figure out, like, has there been a lot of conversation in really high octave, really in that, you know, kind of back and forth? Or is it more of that dull sadness, depression, grief? Or, you know, so that it does, and it feels within the body at times. And at times, I am very detached and dissociated with that energy. I walk in and I just kind of conversation, kind of walk out. Maybe I protect myself physically and emotionally, unconsciously, just kind of layer of protective shield, so to speak, where sometimes I'm just going, having conversation, not really so in tuned and aware to the environment that is really harmful for myself. Because then I tend to absorb these energies. And so, of course, energetically I've learned to protect myself now. But yeah, that happens. How about you? I'm sure you have some stories about that.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Yeah, I so and this is what happens when we talk, right? We we get into the story parts, and and then the frequency starts shifting as we're speaking. And I remember feeling a lot of dissonance, specifically in places of worship, um, or spaces of worship, you know, feeling as though I am coming in to the sacred space and sitting in a pew or with the rest of the congregation, and yet from the environment, depending who I was sitting next to, picking up small aspects of what that person was not feeling into that sacred space. For example, going in, sitting down, going into prayer mode, and then the person right behind me talking about somebody else's dress or bringing up gossip about the food or something. And like I shared before, spaces of worship were difficult due to their dissonance for me. They did not feel authentic. The space in which I was presented to connect with God was not authentic. So, how can I connect to God if I'm overhearing people talk about the little things about others, their life, where things are going wrong, and not really being in that presence. So, and I know I kind of like shifted that a little abruptly, but this is what happens when we talk on an everyday. We are just going from story to story, giggly-giggly, and then boom, big shift in energy. And for me, I had to learn to connect outside of church, outside of um a spiritual space, because the dissonance was so strong. Um, and I remember you and I talking about the tone of prayer a lot and what that means for each of us, but it was something that really touched and affected me. I wonder how many people go to these places looking for that sacred connection to God and feel as though wait, something is off here, either through other people or even the way the prayer itself is being shared or spoken or sung, right? Do you know you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 25:33

I definitely get you. And again, about stories, it's like when you said, you know, being at a God of place where you know we gather to worship, and I have had all these stories just kind of boom, came back, and I'm like smiling out here because I've had conversations with some of the ladies that are on the phone, or they were like, Oh, this app that while the teachings are going on, while we're at the temple, and I'm like, hello, can you please pay attention? Or can you quiet down or can you take it outside? Um, then I'm like shaking because you know, I I kind of stood up and talked about, but and that's what I dislike. We gather to do pujas, you know, prayers together, but there's more chatter of people talking to each other and all that. And believe me, I've done my share also, but I kind of come back to okay, I need to um come back to the prayers or come back to this. Um, but I totally understand and I I get you. It's like again, now you're not sitting with yourself, you're not being true to yourself. And and you know, yes, and we were talking about the tone of prayers also, where we're talking about how different prayers and what it brings within yourself. So now let's just talk about you know, things about what are some of the things that you do in terms of prayers, or how do you receive certain prayers? How do you communicate with the divine or with the divine within yourself?

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Well, to to kind of like bring it back from where I was sharing, I had to leave that aspect of being surrounded because my goal of prayer is to commune with the divine. So no matter what the worship house was, denominationally speaking, that's what I went there for, that communion, until I found out, hey, I can commune with the divine on my own, right? So, and that happened very beautifully in an ashram and chanting. And it is still part of what I do, it is still part of a big part of my practice before anything that means anything to me. If my intention is to show up authentically at a neutral frequency, so I can clearly give and receive, I chant. It connects me back to the God within. It allows me to experience neutrality around what I can be going through or expectation about the other person that's showing up in front of me. It brings me to a stasis, a form of like I am held, like nothing else. And and then, you know, that's the biggest aspect of sacred prayer. But then I also talk to Master Jesus, Master Joshua, all of the time, you know, and it's deep communication. I remember questioning myself a lot around how can I be so connected to a mantra I don't know the translation of, right? We're speaking in Sanskrit, that we're chanting devotionally, embedded into my being, into every cell of my body. I have no idea what it means, but it was the quickest bridge to that divine aspect. And you're gonna find that if the people around you are chanting, no one has time to gossip. But beyond that, it was real, it's really a practice I come back over and over to because it is that most beautiful organic bridge from my mind, my mind self, to that I am God's self. And I think a lot of it has to do with the not being aware of what the words mean, you know? What is it for you? What aspect of tone of prayer or any other way in which you connect has that most impact for you right now, in this point in your life? How does Himali connect and commune with prayer?

SPEAKER_00 29:46

So chanting mantras, definitely listening to them, definitely kind of brings me back to myself or grounded, centered, aligned, what may you call. I wanted to read this um thing. I was just looking up when we were talking mantra, mantra or chanting, what it really does is like if you have this crazy thoughts, like fluctuation in your mind, constant thoughts coming on, and what mantra does is breaks it, breaks the cycle when you start chanting. And so I wanted to just read this little bit, what I've read. Somebody wrote about what does mantra really mean in Sanskrit. And it says it means to consult, seek advice or help, think or deliberate. The source of the mantras is God. In the human body, it is the breath in the speech which gives each mantra a verbal form, awakens its hidden power, and sends it across the space as sound vibrations to its desired destination. Mantras are thus divine vehicles which carry the thoughts and prayers of devotees to the heaven and help them establish communication with the divine. And I just I was thinking about it and about the sound waves and sound vibration and how that carries and the octave and the tone that's used, especially in Sanskrit mantras, right? There are there are rhythms to it, there are tones and the way they sing it, there are certain syllabus or certain letters that get specific indentation, like a more depth to it than the others. And the way they are sung, the spacing of it, the breadth between that. I mean, there is like specification, and these are um mantras or or priyas that have been chanted for thousands and thousands of years, beyond 4,000, 5,000 years. And they've been verbally in memory of people, like verbally coming down through generations, and how much power it gives within yourself. And not only that, I feel that power, but also the energy, depending on what or which mantra you sing about or you pray, you recite the repetition of it 108 times, 1008 times, that also kind of gets you up into that higher consciousness that so that your energy merges with or becomes one with the energy of the deity that you're praying to, or their energy, right? So you're kind of merging with that energy and you're coming to that neutral frequency. And when we talk about frequency and vibration, this is like the frequency. If you look at it, the if you the lowest frequency is like there is a chart out there, if you look up uh depression, anger, guilt, all those have very lower vibrating frequency. 550, neutral is somewhere around 100, 200, 250, and then it goes beyond that. So it's like, how do you stay at that frequency so that you can come from that truth of yourself? You can speak from that, you can connect with people with that neutrality or beyond. So for me, right now, I'm going all about right right now the mantras, right? We were talking about. For me, I feel that when I'm my mind is chaotic and it's so um chattering all over. I really specifically go to listen to, I have like two playlists. I have one with soft, slow um uh prayers going on, while I have the uh the second one that is more of that Sanskrit Vedic chanting prayer where it's in the rhythm and um tone that it's supposed to be sung. That really calms my mind. It's like chaos meeting chaos and bringing it to one and lifting my energy, arising my energy. Um, and then the other way, when I'm really calm, I like to listen to calm. It doesn't have to be specifically, you know, it could be mostly all these calm and slow songs, be it Gayadri mantra, be it these powerful mantras, still sung in very soft tone with accent variations because it's really sung by non-Indians, so to speak, and which is great because it really brings me to that meditative form and space. What kind of tone does work for you and how does it work for you?

SPEAKER_01 34:51

It's a very interesting to think about prayer and frequency of prayer and tone of prayer overall, yeah. Because I don't think we ever we ever feel feel permission enough to test out, right? To try out what works for us. And a lot of us tend to pray because that's just the prayer in the book, and you just pray it there without emotional connection, right? And what we're talking about mostly is feeling that frequency, that that tone, that divine connection from prayer. Because, and I'll speak for myself, I've tried to connect to prayer just by reciting prayer, but it doesn't work, it is not the same, right? There's a disconnect. There is a, it feels transactional, you know, like okay, I'm gonna put in my hands and I'm gonna say this prayer because I am in need of blank, right? There's the certain desperation in certain spaces to pray when you need and not to pray from gratitude or not to pray from devotion. And prayer shifted for me. And I'm speaking about even our father prayer. There is a I have a deeper connection to that prayer now because of mantras, right? Because I understood that I didn't have to know the meaning, but I could fall into the frequency, into the energy of it, right? What am I really stepping into? Mantras for me bypass the mind in a way that nothing else can, but also like you, I have specifics, right? If I am really feeling those lower frequencies of depression and anguish and loneliness and all of that, I tend to go from that more temple mantra, which is like those very specific, it has to be sung in a specific tune with the bells and all of the whistles and all of the things, right? It brings you to estaccato at one point and just do it's constant. The hitting of the melody of the frequency, the changing of the voices, the speed to which it takes you shakes me out of whatever that lower aspect of density is. You know, when my mind is going kind of hectic and I'm just not being able to gather myself or my thoughts just because I've been busy, I tend to go to those not-specifically Indian singers' mantras because they have a soothing aspect. At least I find there's a very soothing aspect to the melody. Oftentimes you'll find me bawling because it really touches aspects of me that because my mind has been wired and I'm not being able to ground enough, I've not discovered something is hurting, right? I've not discovered something has been triggered, I've not discovered something has gone beyond the surface. Those mantras I tend to really tap into the aspects of me, of where I'm at energetically, not fully engaged with the outside world, so that when they're playing, my real feelings are surfacing. The reality of where I am at is surfacing. And this is why you will often find me cry my eyes out. It's like uh uh a permission for myself to say, feel your real self, right? Let go of whatever emotions you're holding. And I find it really deeply in in those mantras, and it has led to a deeper exploration of why do people pray? And how do I show up for that prayer, regardless of what the prayer is? Like I said earlier, even our father, you can say it without meaning that. You can say it in a tone of desperation, but are you able to arrive at a place where the prayer touches your beingness and really find that devotional aspect of that prayer? Can you say our father and be impacted to tears? Do you know what you're asking? Can you bypass your own mind and drop into the sanctity of that moment? Are we praying just to repeat the words? Or are we connected? Do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 39:25

It's yeah, I mean, these are beautiful questions to ask. And and you and I have meditated, done healing work with these chantings and mantras, with that soothing and softer meditation. We've gone beyond. I mean, we've experienced the quantum feels with that. So I can definitely relate with what you're saying. What I also, and I don't know you and if you and I have talked about this, but once I was walking through the woods and my mind was chattering, but then I started chanting, just going, chanting a prayer. And then all of a sudden, I found myself, the chanting was going on, but at the same time, another thought came through. Then I was like, wait a minute. No, I was chanting. And so then I can, I said, okay, I started another prayer. So I can hear the both the prayers going, and yet I was thinking, wow, how is that that these two prayers are going on? But yet I'm also thinking about something. Then I was like, let me, I that got me like my mind was blown. I was like, wait a minute, how am I able to open? It's like almost like I have like these two rooms within my mind or two spaces within my mind. But now this third one is coming up well where I'm questioning that these two prayers are going on at the same time while I'm thinking. So that's like three spaces open. So then I got really excited about it. I was like started doing experimentation in terms of okay, I'm gonna start chanting in this space. I'm gonna off my mind. Okay, I sound crazy, right? Cuckoo out there, but that's how I felt at the same time. I'm like, no, I'm not giving up this experiment. I really want to see how many minds or how many spaces can I open up in my mind where I have so I tried like almost five prayers going on at the same time. And every time I would hop onto a different space, that prayer is going on within my mind. And so I felt like, have we talked about this? I don't know if we've talked about it, but I felt that, and I don't do that often, but I've done that in terms of, but then also just staying with one prayer. But within my body, these many prayers were happening at the same time. And I feel I definitely want to look into it. Like, there are so many ways of connecting to bring our mind to that oneness, that consciousness, even though all these prayers are going on at the same time, it's like still connecting with that one or becoming that one, embodying that oneness with the energies of different forms or formlessness. So it really matters like what you're vibrating, how you're vibrating, how you're carrying your frequency with, you know, during your day, during your interactions, because that's how uplifting these conversations and interactions are going to be. It's gonna bring in more people that are vibrating at that frequency and taking you more higher into just that truth of who you are, bringing you to opportunities, bringing you to different places and spaces that you never imagined to be in. So I don't know. I just I had to share that little my encounter with that experimentation. Yeah, that that's that's a little out there, Himali.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

Yeah, opening five different channels and still talking to yourself, that is actually master level genius. Right. I don't know that I could do that, but to the point of that, to being still in that consciousness, to access the ability to navigate and put yourself in places with people and things that resonate at your own frequency, right? I want to bring back what you said earlier. Someone would say she has a beautiful smile, and I would think to myself about the gap on my tooth, teeth, right? Instead of just taking the compliment. And I think that's why exploring frequency matters. I think that we often think about exploring paths, exploring spirituality, religions, modalities, but we don't think we can explore our own frequency. How if we experiment with today, I'm gonna show up after my prayer in my full sovereign self wherever I go. Can you hold that for the whole day? Is that feasible, right? Or do you have to constantly check in with yourself and say, oh, I dropped it there for a minute, but let's take another breath and dip back in, right? And that is where frequency is so important. It is one of those people talk about it in so many different ways. To me, just simply what is your signature state of beingness at that particular moment? What are you putting out there? What color are you shining at? And then can you receive at the level that you're expecting? Can you really go? I want to be aligned to the abundance of my life. And then in the back of your mind, you're thinking, gosh, I don't think I'm gonna have enough for that pizza. Can you be in an abundant and a lack mentality at the same time? You cannot. You're either in one or the other. So if you want to be in the frequency of abundance, you must first feel abundance within you. And you can only get to know the frequency of abundance if you explore frequency within yourself. Whether it is in a customer service voice, whether it is talking to a friend, whether it is showing up in big gatherings or sitting in prayer. You know? The whole point is to explore it for yourself, to break it down so you can say, Oh, I am not acting in that frequency of abundance. Yeah, no, I'm not there. They have to tweak it, right? Learn what that feels like for you. And there are so many paths you can walk that would teach you about frequency. It's literally just how are you showing up to what you're asking from the universe, from God, right? Are you showing up in order to get that? You have a beautiful smile compliment and then just accept it?

SPEAKER_00 45:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

You know? This is where frequency gets a little more pushed to the back. That's just largely talked about, but the importance of exploring frequency within the self. And how do you output that into the world? And how do you input from the world into yourself? And a lot of times we don't feel like we have the permission to do that. And what I'm trying to say is you have full permission. If you feel like you need it from the external aspect of yourself, Sheila said, I have full permission to explore my frequency if you need that. I hope you don't need my permission or validation, but if you do, you have it, right? I agree.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

And Himali gives you permission to be curious, explore, explore, explore, and see what your frequency is at, how you're vibrating. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:41

What would you say to someone who's never thought about frequency, who's never even questioned it? How would you have someone start to explore frequency? What would you say?

SPEAKER_00 46:53

I think my initial start, as is as I was mentioning, just start noticing, observing, be an observer of yourself, not anybody else, just yourself, or see what you say about yourself, to yourself, constantly, what is going on in your mind about, oh, I look like this, or I should have said that, should have done that, and be nicer to yourself, like you would to someone else you just met, kinder to yourself, and see how that shifts within you, how you start thinking about yourself. Then observe what you say about yourself to other people. I can never do that. I'm not good at this, I'm not good at that, or I'm so bad. Things like that. Observe that and shift that, change that. Be kinder and gentler to yourself as you would to someone that you just met and see how that shifts within you. And look at certain words people use, or you use when you are having conversations with other people. I'm here, I just, you know, I was busy, I'm just trying to get it over with it. I want to finish this so I can do next. Are you constantly on the run? So I think that that's where I would start personally, and that way I think little shifts will start happening. What about you?

SPEAKER_01 48:09

I I would say go out there and explore. I'm a curious person and I play with everything I can get my hands on. And there's no better way to learn how something works for you than to actually experiment with it. What does it feel like? Let's say if, okay, Mondays, I'm gonna show up in this frequency. And when I drop from it, I'm gonna check myself, right? I'm gonna ask myself, did you stay in that frequency all day? How long can you hold that frequency, right? How I've learned my own frequency is by becoming silent and just allowing what happens to teach me about other people, obviously in other situations, but mostly about myself. What parts of whatever I'm experiencing in the external world am I not connecting to? What is not longer for me? So if you are still not clear about where to begin exploring and recognizing your own frequency, pull yourself out, put everything externally from you in an augmented space and tune your mind to do not disturb and just watch what happens. Only lead with what you want to put out there and see what the universe reflects back at you. Everything is at the end of the day, an opportunity to learn more about yourself. So take it, take the chance. How do I show up as myself every day? And how do people behave to that self? What is my frequency around it? It's not just about people, places, and things, it's mostly about you. And if you can tap into your own frequency, you can shift about everything else outside of yourself. So take the time, learn your language, learn how you move through the world. What we're saying is there are so many different paths to do one thing. They all will lead you to the same place. The goal is that you find yourself giving yourself permission to explore those paths. Thank you so much for being here with us today, for taking the time to listen. We appreciate you so much. Emali, I'll see you soon.

SPEAKER_00 50:19

Bye.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

If there's one thing to sit with from today, your voice carries more than words. It carries your truth, your frequency, and your energy. When you speak from your center, whether in prayer, in conversation, or in silence, you are transmitting who you actually are. You don't need to sound like anyone else. Your frequency is your signature. Learn to trust it.